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How Well Do We Communicate?

How Do We Communicate?

An article recently came across my desk that I found enlightening and hope you will too. The topic today is about communication, specifically, communication with owners and vets about neurology. I find myself using a LOT of words in my consultations with owners and often wonder if those words are having an effect. You are not alone if you find neurology daunting – many clinicians do – and that innate worry can lead to communication barriers, too!  Prior to COVID I used a white board and wrote key points on the board as I spoke to owners. The COVID pandemic resulted in a large percentage of telephone based conversations and the white board wasn’t there. Now that I’m back to in person consulting, the white board is back too and I think, highly subjectively, that I see a difference in client comprehension. That is why this article sparked my attention. I am always trying to figure out ways to communicate as effectively as possible with you, my actual client, and your client (aka the pet’s owner) so that the pet gets optimal care.
The article I’m referencing is by Dr. Thomas Flegel (a German neurologist) and his colleagues (JVIM 2024 1-4). In this article Dr. Flegel and his team evaluated the client’s recall of the discharge and compared that to the clinician’s recall of the discharge. There were 3 parts of the study. Part 1 and 2 were only answered by the client and they pertained to demographic questions of the owner and atmosphere/comfort level during discharge. Part 3 was about the diagnosis, treatment, and long-term plan. A raw percent agreement was then calculated for different questions. Part 3 was repeated 2 weeks later.

Results

I had preconceived ideas that age, maybe native language speaking and level of education would influence these results. I was wrong! The only statistically significant difference was the client’s age; increasing age lead to a decreased raw percent agreement. This meant that clients over 50 years old had a more difficult time recalling the specifics about the case compared to the clinician. I don’t believe they accounted for clinician age in the study, but they did evaluate clinician experience.

The three questions that had significantly lower raw percent agreement 2 weeks later. Those questions were
“Should you give the medication before feeding your pet?”
“What are potential adverse effects of the medicine you have to give your pet?”
“If your pet has to live permanently with signs of the disease, which are those?”


Their conclusion was that we should emphasize the most important parts of a pet’s medical care when we discharge them (or finish a consult, in my case).
The researchers also commented that many clients could refer to the discharge instructions to answer the questions therefore resulting in similar answers but their response was “who cares?” In a practical sense, if the client wants to remember the side effects of the medication, for example, we HOPE they will refer to the discharge paperwork!

After each consult I summarize the findings for both the attending clinician (you) and the client. I know many of you write summaries for your clients as well. Some parts of my written summaries will be over the heads of some owners because it is intended for you (my client) and some of the discharge will be too simple for you because it is intended for the client. But having all the information available to all parties can only improve understanding and follow through. Hopefully this limits the number of clients coming back to you with questions after my consult, and I have been told it helps many of you recall my BILLIONS of words when the client calls with questions. I know they’re long but hopefully they’re not unapproachably long. If you have a suggested change to the summary forms, I’d really love to hear from you!
 

Thanks for including me in your patients’ care. I look forward to working with you (and writing down my findings) soon!

The use of AI In Veterinary Medicine

At the recent ACVIM Forum in Philadelphia, a radiologist gave a very enlightening presentation about AI, and specifically ChatGPT. Have any of you messed around with this technology yet? Is anyone using it for work flow support? Although this TidBit Tuesday isn’t specifically about a neurology topic, I was so blow away by the ChatGPT lecture I decided to include it as a TidBit Tuesday. We’ll be back to our regularly scheduled neurology topics next week… 😊

To get us all on the same page, ChatGPT is a new artificial intelligence (AI) software developed by Microsoft engineers. The presenter at ACVIM (Dr. Eli Cohen, provided an example during his talk of a “conversation” he had with ChatGPT that terrified me. While reviewing a radiograph ChatGPT suggested that one of the differentials for this pet with clear lytic bone lesions on each side of an intervertebral disc space could be “sterile discospondylitis”. Dr. Cohen, like all of us in the audience, instantly worried that we had missed this diagnosis in our years of practice experience. STERILE disco? Is this real? How could I have missed this?? So, he asked ChatGPT to provide references for this statement. AND IT DID. Dozens of references popped up on the screen. They were from reputable journals like JAVMA, JVIM, and Vet Rad and Ultrasound. By real, live people, practicing veterinary neurologists and radiologists. Some of us were in the audience. The catch? None of these references were real. NOT ONE of the references was actually a reference for this imaginary disease. ChatGPT had taken names of people that may have written about “sterile” and “discospondylitis” separately and combined this into believable reference points. My take away from this was to make sure if and when I use ChatGPT for any work-related item, that I personally double check (dare I say vet?) all of the data points. Here is a perfect example. I fed ChatGPT the following question:

What is the neuroanatomic lesion localization for a dog with seizures?

Here is the answer:

Seizures in dogs can arise from various neuroanatomic locations. The specific neuroanatomic lesion localization for seizures depends on the underlying cause and can vary between individual cases. Here are a few examples of potential lesion locations associated with seizures in dogs…

WRONG. What is the correct neuroanatomic lesion localization for a dog with seizures? That’s right, forebrain or prosencephalon. There is only one neuroanatomic lesion localization for pets with seizures. The etiology varies widely from hypoglycemia to brain tumors, but all seizures come from one part.

This was a wonderful reminder to me how important the grasp of words, terms and phrases is when we communicate in veterinary medicine. I, probably similar to you, will be using AI in my veterinary career in the future. I think it is probably inevitable. However, we must remember to double check what we put in is using the correct terminology, and that the produced answer is in line with our knowledge and understanding.


I’d love to hear if you use AI in your personal or professional life and how it has affected you. I hope you had a safe and happy 1st or 4th of July and I look forward to seeing you, without robots, in the future!